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Schlage Primus bump keys - possible?
Posted 22 January 2008 - 04:28 AM
I have been staring at my key for an hour trying to figure it out (I just moved into a new condo and had to install a deadbolt, it was a choice between Mul-T-Lock, Medeco, or the Schlage Primus - I opted for the later) ..
Is it possible or waste of time .... hell, to even get a copy of the key I have to send a copy of my card (that came with the lock) to New Mexico to Schlage's main facility as it seems no one has the machine to make the side cuts ...
Posted 25 January 2008 - 02:53 AM
That being said -- I'd say don't waste your time trying to bump this lock as it will give you a MAJOR head ache. The few times we've 'played' with the Primus resulted in un-successful bumping attempts. It appeared to us that finger pins ( along the side of the keyway) were the ones causing the problems.
Have a look on the Schlage Primus website for their manuals \ diagrams for the best explanation possible.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 07:26 PM
The Everest series, also by Schlage, has a mildly similar system, but the side of the blade is the same for each Everest series. Thus, with a properly made set of keys, the Everest series is bumpable. I remember Peterson selling a set not too long ago, but you're not going to get anything from them unless you're government/police.
Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:57 PM
From my reading, using a Primus key that has been properly cut for the purpose, you can pick the locks in the same way as you can any other pin-tumbler ..
Anyway, I think it is safe to confirm that Schlage 'Primus' & Everest, Medeco, and Mul-T-Lock Locks, while you can compromise them, it is not as easy as using a bump-key and getting in with one, quick tap of the key and a flick of the wrist. Of course the notable exception being the discovery that you can use one, from a set of around a dozen 'bump-keys', each with the bitting at various angles to make up for the off-set cuts implements of Medeco. But with the exact measurements for the off-sets having not been made public, and given to cut the full-set set the dozen+ keys would require the rather expensive blanks, and if I am not mistaken, a special cutting machine.. well, it just makes it rather impractical to add Medeco to the list of locks you can bump.. but hey, PROVE ME WRONG GUYS!
Posted 16 February 2008 - 03:21 AM
There is only one company which sells Everest bump keys, and they only sell to police and government... normal locksmiths aren't even eligible.
An Everest bump key looks exactly like a regular SC1, except cut on to an Everest blank.
You can buy the Everest key blanks and you could then use either a code cutting a ma1chine to make an original, or simply use an SC1 bump-key to make a copy... the question is the bottom row of cuts - do ALL the everest keys have the SAME bottom row of cut or are they different? as far as I know you don't need any license to buy an everest key blank ..
The locksmith I was working for as an apprentice had some of the everest key blanks, but if I recall, there were about 20 type of blanks (each had different cuts on the bottom row ..)
Posted 14 March 2008 - 03:09 AM
Ok, so say your car redlines at 30mph in 1st gear. If you go 30, then pop the clutch and let the engine jump to red line, it probably won't break it. Do it every Do it every time you stop and bad things will happen.
Do it on a lock you're not using.
Posted 11 March 2011 - 04:03 AM
I agree, You can bump Schlage Everest locks without any problem but Schlage Primus locks may not be bumped easily.