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#1 snafu

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 07:40 AM

5 pin American. how do you know where the valley should be?
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#2 Lock picker

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 04:45 PM

Where each dip in the key is that should be where there valleys are.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 09:03 AM

That key is not a good candidate for a bumpkey. It appears as though the key was initially cut with what is called "laser cut" on the code machine. Machines such as the ITL950 offer this option in which all cuts are made smooth with no real peaks left between cuts. The better keys for converting into a bump key would be keys that have been cut with a standard plunging method.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 12:19 PM

I made a bumpkey by taking several different keys to the same type American locks and using them on a basic key cutting machine to cut a single key. I don't know if I'm explaining this well, but I put my "bump key" in the machine and then used about 15 keys to different American locks as the "original". That cut the bump key to the max depth. Make sense?

I know this won't help most people out, only if you have access to a key cutter and several of the same type keys to different locks. I've made a couple different bumpkeys this way and they all work pretty well.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 06:13 AM

Simply take your existing key, find the midpoint of each valley, and that's where your valleys should be on your final key. Cut the valleys to depth as per the manufacturers specifications, and smooth out your peaks. I find that on the American locks, relatively small peaks work wonders.

#6 snafu

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:07 AM

of if i'm understanding this right the valleys should be made at the red dots?
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:56 AM

Correct: at the red dots.
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 07:11 AM

And FYI, the second red dot from the right looks to be the max depth. I cut my own American bumpkey and bought one from Peterson's and they both work pretty well. Also, as Theo said, the peaks are pretty small, maybe 1mm tall or so.

#9 snafu

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 07:40 AM

so i made it and it looked like hell but it worked twice, and now i cant get ti to bump anymore i had a copy made and the copy is crap Axxess system sucks.
i'll keep at it and post pics if people want.


p.s. thanks for all the help guys

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 05:17 PM

Take a file to the Crapxxess copy and it might work a couple of times.
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