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Where to find other bump keys?
Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:24 AM
i have been interested in bumping about a yeah.. my "unlimited" search for bump keys that work on other than "typical US brands", gave me no clue where to order.. i live in sweden.. these are the brands that i would like to have bumpkeys for: ASSA,KABA, ABLOY, SOLIO, FAS, EVVA, DORMA, BEWATOR, RCO, TEKA, ABUS, EXPERT, LARM, DICO, and PLUS.
an related question: How do you guyz do research about what brands to order.. can you just go to the local locksmith and ask which 10 brands he sell most of ?
Posted 25 April 2007 - 09:11 AM
Despite the fact that you have a greater variety of locks and keys, the majority of them can still be bumped. The lock must be a regular pin tumbler mechanism to allow the lock to be bumped. In Europe, many of the locks are just Yales or clones, meaning that one key will open most locks.
Peterson Manufacturing sells some bump keys, but only to locksmiths or other security professionals. They sell a 5-pin EVVA key, 5 and 6-pin ASSA keys, a 5-pin ESLA EV-3D key and a 5-pin AZBE AZ-1D. They are rather strict about the credentials required for sale, and I'm not sure if they ship internationally. It may be worth a shot to have your locksmith order them from Peterson for you.
And you could always just go to your locksmith and tell him about your interest in the subject; talk to him about what keys are most common, and ask him to tell you about bump keys. If you're an upstanding character, he may even cut you a few. Even if he doesn't, knowing which keys are the most common is half the battle... once you know, you can file down your own keys.
Posted 01 May 2007 - 01:52 AM
While Universal blanks do exist, you cannot simply lump all of Europe together. For example, consider the UK, and all of the BS Lever locks there. Then consider brands like GEGE, Cisa, Ruko, ASSA, KABA, ABLOY, DOM et al. Not only will a "universal blank" not fit many if not all of the locks from these manufacturers, not all of these locks are bumpable. Oh, and Yale has a wide variety of keyways, so even if all the locks happened to be Yale clones, you would still need a variety of keys.
Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:14 AM
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 12:06 AM
Given the European attitude toward locks and their security needs, one will find a much greater variety of "common" keyways in use, and more often run into relatively high security locks that are very difficult or impossible to bump.
I'm glad that you mentioned the extra pin gained when using minimal movement, as many of the locks are seven pins, and bump keys for these are rare birds indeed. I tend to grind the tip of the key at an angle to match that of the peaks on the key, thus shortening it for minimal movement while at the same time optimizing the spacing and angle as to catch that first pin without a problem. It certainly helps when you run into those seven pin systems.
Posted 23 March 2011 - 12:43 AM
I agree with you that, mostly Yale is commonly used keyway in most of the locks.
I'm not sure what you don't understand. If it's Yale brand, and it takes a Y1 or Y2, a Y2 will do the job. If it's not Yale brand but uses the same keyway, the Y2 will still do the job. And yes, there are other brands... quite a few of them. But Yale is absolutely by far the most common keyway around, regardless of brand name. This comes from five years of experience of living between the UK, France and Germany.