[mosszaphod]

The keys that are sold by bumpkey.us are they ready to use out of the box or do they need cut / tweaked in any way? Preferably the 11 set in particular...thanks for any information you can provide.

Mosszaphod

[sniper101]

the bump keys are ready to go. if you want to use the pull out method, where you pull the key out one click you do not need to modify the keys in any way, and you can use them right away, if you are planning to do to minimal movement method, then you need to file down the tip and the shoulder a bit. it is shown how to file the tip and the shoulder in the FAQ's section.

[mosszaphod]

sniper101 said:

the bump keys are ready to go. if you want to use the pull out method, where you pull the key out one click you do not need to modify the keys in any way, and you can use them right away, if you are planning to do to minimal movement method, then you need to file down the tip and the shoulder a bit. it is shown how to file the tip and the shoulder in the FAQ's section.

Is there any major difference between which method you use? One easier or better than the other?

[kinghajj]

Most think that the minimal movement method (the one that requires some modification of the key) is easier. I haven't gotten my bumpkeys yet, though, so I don't have any personal experience.

[theopratr]

In general, I think that keys that have been modified for minimal movement are easier to actually employ, simply because you don't have to fuss around with pulling them in and out with each successive attempt. If the key is well made, however, and you have your technique down to a science, the pull out method is beautiful. No modification required whatsoever.

I think it really boils down to personal preference. If you start practicing with pull out, you'll probably end up thinking that the method you're used to works better, etc.

I can say from experience that the pull out method is fantastic.

I can also say that minimal movement works great.

You decide.

[EFlatStrat]

I just got my 11 key set in the mail. I tried to bump my Kwikset dead bolt with no luck. How much tension should you put on the key? How hard do you hit it? I pulled the key out one click but when I hit it, it goes back into the lock. Any ideas?

[Customer Support]

Please read the post 'Sticky: OFFICIAL THREAD: can't get bump keys to work'

If you are unable to get an answer to your question please post there. We've had the same questions asked time and time again... the thread is an attempt to consolidate all of our info.

EDIT: http://www.bumpkeyforum.com/search.php and using the term 'tention' returned MANY results.

[Lock picker]

EFlatStrat said:

I just got my 11 key set in the mail. I tried to bump my Kwikset dead bolt with no luck. How much tension should you put on the key? How hard do you hit it? I pulled the key out one click but when I hit it, it goes back into the lock. Any ideas?

You Need to just put enough but not too much and not to hard on hitting it because it could damage the lock.

[bowman]

I am new to Bumping but have done a lot of picking. Wnen picking I put just enough tension on the tool as I would to turn the regular key in the lock, (which isn't much) I would guess it would be the same with bumping.

[krash2501]

right. I now can open the lock 1-3 times i try now using the MMM (minimal movement method). my BIGGEST problem was the tension. Someone else posted that it only take 13 grams of pressure to turn the cylinder. Thats not much. I started out using the pull out method and I was getting it 1-15 or so times more. Now i use the minimal movement method and wow what a difference. I practiced my tension pressure by using the original key and just feeling how much pressure i needed to apply to turn the key past the center line. If you put just a little to much tension then your success rate drops big time.

So remember LESS IS MORE.:smile:

[krash2501]

right. I now can open the lock 1-3 times i try now using the MMM (minimal movement method). my BIGGEST problem was the tension. Someone else posted that it only take 13 grams of pressure to turn the cylinder. Thats not much. I started out using the pull out method and I was getting it 1-15 or so times more. Now i use the minimal movement method and wow what a difference. I practiced my tension pressure by using the original key and just feeling how much pressure i needed to apply to turn the key past the center line. If you put just a little to much tension then your success rate drops big time.

So remember LESS IS MORE.:smile:

[locksmith673]

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[psehorne]

sniper101 said:

the bump keys are ready to go. if you want to use the pull out method, where you pull the key out one click you do not need to modify the keys in any way

Actually keys made by BumpKey.us may need modding for locks with a long pin in the position nearest the tip of the key. See
http://www.bumpkeyfo...read.php?t=1949