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OFFICIAL THREAD: can't get bump keys to work
Posted 25 February 2007 - 12:34 PM
Posted 27 February 2007 - 10:33 AM
Also, I still haven't bumped any locks that were already installed in a door. I doubt that has anything to do with it though. I would of at least bumped one of them out of the 2000 attempts.
Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:09 PM
I purchased the 11 set of keys from here, went to Home Depot and made some copies of the KW1, attempted filing one of the keys down as instructed in the forum and have unsuccessfully been trying to bump my Kwickset locks around the house. As I read more on the forums, I decided to stop messing with my door locks and bought a new Kwickset lock to play with at home. Looking at the key that came with the lock, I am almost certain I should be using a KW1 bumpkey as the keys are identical in length. I must have tried at least 100 times a day over the past few days with no success. I know practise makes perfect, but if I am not getting anywhere in my practise bumps, I won't ever get anywhere. I have tried using the handle of a bread knife, a screw driver, and a hammer to hit the key with. I have tried hitting the key at different angles and with different force...I have tried little pressure, ranging to a lot of pressure with no luck.
Can anyone please offer some sort of assistance. I understand that the Kwikset locks require little pressure; however, I am not sure what "little" really means. Also does the pressure need to be applied prior to hitting the key, or is timing the hit and pressure the key to bumping? I believe I may be getting some of the pins to jump into possition, as when I release the pressure on the key, I can hear noise from within the lock.
I'd really like to learn how to consistantly bump my locks but am starting to get a little dicouraged. Any advice you can offer would be appeciated. Also, any idea on the time frame of getting a bumpkey.us video on the KW1 would be great to hear as well.
Posted 19 March 2007 - 05:26 AM
P.s if the link doesnt work go to www.youtube.com, and search "lock bump with a feather", that is the exact title of it.
Posted 20 March 2007 - 06:45 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have any other brand to practice with except various padlocks.
Not even graphite is helping.
Haven't been able to get any practice locks, as the yard sales haven't started yet.
So why do Kwiksets seem to be very difficult to bump for many of us?
Posted 21 March 2007 - 04:33 PM
Now I know my keys are good...however, I am having a lot more trouble bumping a mounted lock. I have been able to bump a mounted lock only twice, and with only pulling the key out one click. I'll keep practising and hope that eventually I get the mounted bump down as well.
Thanks to everyone who provided some tips.
Posted 21 March 2007 - 11:37 PM
The real pain about bumping mounted locks in being able to put that same tension and force in the right places while in an akward position. Try practicing on an unmounted lock, but switching hands, applying tension with just one finger, etc. This is at least a little preparation for mounted locks. I find a lot of people, myself included, prefer to strike mounted locks from directly behind the key, as opposed to swinging the hammer sidewards.
Practice makes perfect, I suppose. Or at least better than nothing?
Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:06 PM
Posted 02 April 2007 - 10:33 AM
OK all you smart guys tell this 63 year old idiot how to get this thing to work. If you say practice give me some clues on what variations I should use as I practice. There are some smart guys on here.
I think I understand how the locks work and the Bump theory but only the basics. And I am sick of the videos they attack my ego LOL.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 01:14 PM
I did not see the response to "do you put the pressure with your finger all the time or when you hit it only?"
I am switching back and forth with the filed key and another one that fits on using the pull back method.
I am sick of the videos they attack my ego
1. You maintain a constant pressure on the key throughout the process. For most locks, the pressure is about equal or less than the amount of force you would use to carefully press an elevator button. It's really not too much at all. Too much force causes the top pins to be immobilized between the shell and the plug, so that the force is just dissipated into the body of the lock. So! just enough tension such that the lock would turn if you had the real key for the lock is sufficient.
2. Use the pull out method first. One click out, light tension, and a quick tap. Use either your screwdriver, striking with the handle; or your tack hammer. It's not so much about force - the pins that you're trying to jump are made out of brass, aluminum, etc. - they are invariably very light. Although we commonly use words like, "strike", "whack", etc. the best way is really just a quick flick of the wrist. Some people who have intermittent success at bumping use tension that's too heavy and blows that are too strong... the stronger impact unseats the jammed top pins, which sometimes all get above the shearline... it's a messy, damaging way of operating. So again... light tension (one finger does it!) and a flick of the wrist. It has nothing to do with the actual force, it's more like the velocity.
3. The videos online aren't suitable for anything except impressing your friends, family and co-workers when you tell them that you bump locks. Even for locksmiths that bump, their success rate is a dismally small fraction of what you find in videos online. How many takes it they take before splicing it all together and throwing it on YouTube?
Best of bumping!