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#8238 What type of people/professions use bump keys?

Posted by LogiGoi on 07 January 2016 - 12:52 PM

Using bump keys doesn't require a profession...it is already by default that locksmiths are the ones making it after all it was their job and skills that put the bump keys into existence...whatever your profession is, you can use a bump key,...just don't make using bump key to other people's door lock your profession...


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#6970 Bump Keys vs Locks

Posted by redcity on 02 January 2014 - 06:27 PM

I would say that the biggest part of locks can be opened using bump keys except for the very expensive ones made for special buildings they would have deadbolts and trap pins. Search for non-bumpable locks if you are willing to buy one and yes they are certainly safer.


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#6950 Making your own bump keys

Posted by LAlocksport on 02 January 2014 - 04:43 AM

So we can all agree that it's better to buy one :) Except if you somehow don't own equipment for producing bump keys.


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#4622 History Of Lock Bumping

Posted by Customer Support on 20 April 2008 - 12:57 AM

History of Lock Bumping


How did the fascinating technique of lock bumping get its start? When did this lock bypass system begin to come to the attention of the public? What’s that, anyway? Let’s explore the interesting history of lock bumping and look at a few important details pertaining to it.

Lock bumping has been around for a long time. Some estimates place the beginnings of lock bumping to about 50 years ago. This special technique allows a special type of key to be used in any lock of the same type. Most of the locks that are currently being manufactured are susceptible to the skilled use of a bump key.

Tumbler locks are the most widespread style of lock in use today. The system of pins is quite simple. A series of pins are spring-stacked to hold the rotating bolt of the lock mechanism in place. Because the pins are all different lengths, one usually uses a custom cut key to open the lock. The grooves on the key “tickle” the pins and lift them out of the way enough to let the bolt slide away, resulting in an unlocked door. However, a bump key can do the same job even though all its grooves are the same depth.

Public knowledge of lock bumping really began in the 1970’s, when Danish locksmiths distributed a method for bypassing the tumbler lock mechanism. They would tap on the side of the cylinder and simultaneously press the lock plug (in our case, one would press the back of the bump key). The vibration would cause the pins to become loose; once this happened, the lock plug could be removed easily.

The advent of bump keys came much later. Surprisingly, they were not even considered a security problem until 2002 or 2003. The German media was the first to pick up on the possible hazards of lock bumping keys. Other organizations published carefully considered reports on the uses, techniques, and hazards of lock bumping. Papers have also been written about the possible legal problems connected with bump key usage. Although in many States a bump key is considered by law to be a “burglary tool”, this is no reason to avoid them. This law is not going to harm you as long as you use the bump key for legitimate purposes. Currently, there must be proof that there was intent to use the bump key in a burglary before you can be charged with anything.

Lock bumping can be a beneficial skill. It is an easy way to get back in if you are locked out of your home or office. You can make a bump key for free with a simple file, and it takes minimal training to learn how to use it. Don’t ever go through the frustration of being locked out of your own home (or your own personal safe) again. Learn how to use a bump key and practice until you know you can get past the tumbler locks in your home. One day, you’ll be glad you did.

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#8378 How important are the quality of your keys?

Posted by redcity on 17 January 2016 - 11:39 AM

Permission I mean. As long as it is your own lock or you have the permission from the owner of the lock. That's what I meant ;-)

Ok, i got it , sorry for the misunderstanding, i thought of it like a permit you take for opening a pizza shop or things like that :)


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#8196 Bumpkey Channels

Posted by LockPickIt on 06 January 2016 - 03:20 AM

Hi all, so I've decided to share the list of youtube channels I'm currently subscribed on that will surely be an interest to you :)

 

 
So far those are the channels feel free to add some! 
 
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#8179 "Evva Locks - even the best of companies occasionally makes mistakes"

Posted by redcity on 04 January 2016 - 03:15 PM

The donut rubber rings used are also interesting.. one of them is a rubber ring used to castrate goats. I didn't thought of that. :-)

They are called washers, extensively used around shoulders of keys while bumping, avoids breaking or damaging of lock while applying pressure on the key through bump hammer


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#8145 Small Padlock Recommendations Needed

Posted by Customer Support on 01 January 2016 - 04:03 PM

And that's a video of a home made bump key, too.  It's not like the person in the video bought a key and then modified it... they straight up crafted a 'key' out of a piece of metal. 

 

Not sure if I'd call that a 'bump key' or not simply because, well, it's not a key!  =)


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#7824 Lock pick gun VS bump key

Posted by redcity on 15 December 2015 - 01:18 PM

Can you use lock pick guns to any kind of lock? Beginner here :-)

Well, for majority of the locks, as the gun is programmed to pick a lock, by trying different replacement needles, in the upward, downward direction, they work quite efficiently, well i am talking about automatic lock pick gun here 


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#7700 Exaggeration of Bump Key

Posted by xcaliber on 12 December 2015 - 12:09 AM

Some time back there were a few reports on lock knocking. Knocking is a method for picking a lock with a uniquely made key, and the lock business has known about the strategy for quite a while.

 

The Media has taken the stories and kept running with them, making knocking seem as though it was the hoodlums' critical to the city as it were. The reality behind the story is that most lawbreakers essentially don't knock locks. They ordinarily utilize a more ruinous suction technique like softening a window or kicking up the entryway, in light of the fact that it's quicker and manages them less risk of getting gout.

 

Initially things, first how about we perceive that one key won't fit into each lock. There must be several unique sorts of locks with the same number of key ways to match, which means a criminal would need to convey a great deal of keys with no less than 20 or so basic keys, and have the capacity to know which key will fit into your lock. On the other hand stand there while attempting them one by one until they had one that fit. When the key is discovered you have the issue of clamor. Knocking sounds like somebody thumping on your entryway – with a sledge – and paying little respect to what you have seen on TV, not each lock takes one hit to open.

 

Be that as it may, once the seeds of trepidation have spread it doesn't take long to achieve the right ears. What's more, as with a great many people they don't get to be security cognizant until they or somebody close to them has been burglarized, lock makers won't redesign their outline until there is an interest. Presently I won't venture to say that bolt knocking is a misrepresentation, however it is for the most part buildup. For my case I'd concentrate on the materials my locks are made of before I'd stress over them getting knocked open.


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#7019 Combination locks vs bump keys

Posted by Hankerson on 08 January 2014 - 03:16 AM

It's better if you create your own bump keys for combination of locks. There are many other types of lock picks besides bump keys anyway. The last type that I heard to be effective in combination locks are shims. Not sure exactly how it went afterwards because shims aren't really made of strong materials.


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#6977 Can bump key lock door after the lock is picked?

Posted by xcaliber on 03 January 2014 - 06:05 AM

I suppose it's useful to leave no clue that the lock was unlocked before.


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#6934 Can Bump Keys help you with safes?

Posted by redcity on 01 January 2014 - 12:11 PM

They are much harder to bump that's for sure but I would not say it's impossible, if you give us more information about the kind of safe you're trying to bump and then we can give you more information on the possibility of this to happen .


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#6924 How to protect yourself from bump keys?

Posted by redcity on 31 December 2013 - 07:34 AM

Yes, it important to use bump proof deadbolts, to use bolts that has trap pins and to use light sensors if your building is dark at night :)


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#4057 what type of key is this?

Posted by theopratr on 25 September 2007 - 04:47 PM

I have a video of myself farting into an automobile lock and opening it on YouTube. Bumping a wafer lock is just about equally possible.

Bumping, in very short, is the jumping of the top pins in a locking system such that they all clear the shear line simultaneously, thus allowing the lock to be opened. Wafer locks don't have top pins. Actually, they don't have pins at all. That's why they're called "wafer tumbler locks", not "pin tumbler locks."

This explanation precludes any response concerning the remainder of your question.

If your intentions really aren't criminal, which I see as completely possible, I would recommend learning to pick locks. As for the ease with which it can be picked... if the lock you pictured is the same brand or type as the one you are working with, it's not going to be easy to pick - you have two rows of interlocking wafers that play off of each other, making it very difficult to get the lock to set. The lock is a "full turn" variety, which means to open it, you will have to successfully pick it between 2 and 4 times, and a similar number of times to close it. This is a security feature found on many locks that go into service with older vending machines, coin laundry, change machines, etc. as while they are not impossible to pick, it is difficult, and you would need to pick it several times just to get it unlocked, thus making any criminal action take that much longer.
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#3110 Is it better or worse that more people learn about lock bumping?

Posted by ropeadope on 26 April 2007 - 09:13 AM

A friend of mine locked himself out of his house yesterday, and it was me and my bump keys to the rescue. It's very nice to be able to provide this service. I just do it as a hobby, and go long periods of time without bumping anything. It's not a skill that I've needed very often, but it has REALLY come in handy and made me much happier. Thanks to theopratr for all the help.

Now, back to the topic: After helping out my buddy get back into his house, I came home to a surprising coincidence. The Local news was promoting an investigation they were doing about bump keys, showing a local young guy using a screwdriver/bump key to open locks. It hasn't aired yet, but they are promoting this upcoming segment a lot, every day. In a semi-selfish way I don't want other people to know about bumping locks, just because It's nice to have a (somewhat) unique skill. But, maybe it's better people know about it. On the other hand, as more people learn about bumping, more criminals will emerge.

Bump keys have spiked up in popularity extremely over the past year 1/2 or so. Though, still, not many people know what it is and have never heard of it. While it's not near as easy as most people present it, it's a skill that can be acquired pretty easily in a week or so.

My local news probably won't do much on a large scale as to alerting people about bump keys. Maybe 10k people will see it. I feel like most people across the World will still be clueless when it comes to bump keys. What will it take for hundreds of millions of more people to find out about bump keys? They are a big threat, and it's scary how easy it is. It's also kinda scary how long this technique has been around. There are definitely a lot of crimes being committed with bump keys as I speak.

about 60% of the US is still using Kwikset locks, bought from hardware shops for under $20, the easiest kind to bump most would agree. Another 20% is probably Schlage locks, also pretty easy. There are also millions of Masterlocks out there, very common, and very bumpable.

Seeing how bumping is a huge security concern, I wonder how long it will take until, say, 1 out of every 4 people knows about it. Also wondering what it will take to get the word out to many many more people on a global scale. Maybe it will just take time and millions more will learn about it each year from word of mouth or the internet, or local news stories. Even when people learn about bumping locks, what action will they actually take? They would have to replace 2, 3, or more locks in their house (doors with entry from the outside). They would have to get locks that are un-bumpable, now we're talking big bucks. That's a lot of money to invest for most people. Even though it's worth it, otherwise it's almost like having no locks on any of your doors. Will most people actually improve their security after hearing about bump keys? I wonder, and kind of doubt it.

So, I predict after hearing about bump keys, most people will not take the time or invest the money to upgrade their home's security. This is why I think bump keys will be around for a long time to come. Thieves will still be using them, as long as most people don't do anything about it. Certainly not everyone who uses bump keys is a criminal. But as long as bump keys work, people will use them for robbery and such.

If 100 million people learn about bump keys in the next year, what % of people will actually improve their security, and what % of people will use this bumping technique to commit crimes? I'm curious to see how it turns out. I think It will still be better that the word gets out on bump keys, around the world. If people know about bumping, do nothing to improve their security, and get their house/business broken into, it's half their fault. Live and learn. Unfortunately I think most people will have to learn the hard way about bump keys.

Sorry if similar topics have been brought up a lot before already. I couldn't sleep and felt like writing :)
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#2748 A Master padlock and homemade M1 bump key

Posted by the_charlatan on 29 March 2007 - 03:44 PM

I've been reading these forums for a few months now, and finally decided to try my hand at making my own bump key.

I'm wondering what the pros here have to say about improving it. In ~200 attempts it hasn't worked once, although that's probably due to my inexperience.

I assume that the grooves are a bit too deep (should be flatter), and the teeth are a bit too far apart. Any constructive comments will be appreciated.

Also, is it sensible to start out with padlocks, or should I get a Kwikset first? All I care about in the real world is bumping padlocks, but I'll be willing to learn on something easier if that's what you suggest.
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#2519 4 out of 5 pins bumped always.

Posted by RalphWiggum on 15 March 2007 - 11:08 AM

[quote name='SlickJ']Or try some of this: biggrin.png

Good point! I suggest using that smile.png


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#2448 How hard is it to get a Locksmith License?

Posted by Customer Support on 11 March 2007 - 01:10 PM

Just curious, Google is being no help; it keeps directing me to Cali. or Ill. But I was wondering if anyone knows what the requirements for an Alabama Locksmithing License is.


Might want to check with a Lawyer \ state statues. I know down here in FL, there really is professional license for a 'Locksmith'.
There are mail order classes that can be taken so you'll have an actual license in hand.
Check out this site: http://www.foley-bel...amOverview.html they are one of the bigger ones.
And I DO NOT suggest their key cutting machine... it's a rather lame attempt at one.

Hope this helps :rolleyes:
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#2217 Picture of Bump Key In Action

Posted by C0wT1pp3r on 23 February 2007 - 03:19 PM

that's really helpful in explaining how bump keys work
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